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11:24 am
April 8, 2009


Tulsa Oklahoma

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Any one have any suggestion on the following: Our ministry is very large and access by AV techs etc requires access to basically the entire facility. We use schlage primus keys to key AV areas because of the cost of the equipment, settings, etc. Our AV guys hire in new people on occasions which invariable requires them to have a master key if they are not to be supervised all of the time. I dont really like giving out master keys to the building to an AV tech who just got hired. Any suggestions or approaches that seem to work in your church.

3:39 pm
April 13, 2009


Ohio

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We use a card access system to the areas that the AV dept uses the most and stores most of their equipment. It allows us to schedule access to these areas per card as well as tracks the events on the reader. That way you know who is in and out of your building as well as storage/broadcast rooms, etc… We have them on exterior doors, AV areas, and the vault. It is a great system to put in place for any facility with your type of need.

Depending on your budget, you can get a system such as Keri or GE Topaz, or a low end system such as CyberLock.

I actually specialize in these types of products, so if you need any assistance, let me know.

5:42 am
April 14, 2009


rainmaker

Middletown, OH

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My church is looking at re-keying our building, especially sensitive areas, such as office doors, nursery, etc. We've been thinking about installing a punch key code system / electric lock for the main entrance, which would allow access without passing out actual keys or cards. Codes would be changed periodically with new codes given on an individual “as needed” basis.

Several of our congregation have asked about beiing allowed to pray in the sanctuary after business hours, and we're trying come up with a way to accomodate them. All doors but the main entrance would be secured and key-restricted. Right now, we have a small prayer center using a combo lock box to retrieve the door key, and have had no problems.

Any thoughts -pro or con ?

9:59 am
April 14, 2009


Ohio

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rainmaker -

The bad part about having one code is that you will not be able to track passage in and out of the building. I know that there is a drawback of having to distribute cards to people, but I would still recommend that type of system. That way, you can turn one card off remotely without having to update everyone on the new code.

I don't know how big your church is, or what your budget is, but I think this is the best option. The other thing that comes to mind is whether or not you have an intrusion detection system (alarm system) on your building. It sounds like you don't, which in my opinion is a big downfall in your church security plan.

Most card access systems have an integration with an alarm system to disarm it. You can also have your alarm scheduled to arm at a certain time automatically. Then, you can have your cards scheduled to stop working at that time.

If you would like to talk further on this, let me know.

11:28 am
April 14, 2009


rainmaker

Middletown, OH

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Thanks, FCC. You've made some good, valid points. Ours is a medium size church with a limited security budget at this time. One church building has alarm installed, but needs upgrade. We do have alarm/CCTV hardware on hand, but not yet installed in the other building. One of our team members has experience in this type work, and has offerered to do the install. Just have to find time with his schedule.

Where I work, each employee needing access was given a code number for the particular door they need into to disarm the alarm. We can track access by those numbers, and that works well enough. Thinking of basically the same thing for church, unless it gets out of hand.

I do like the idea of cards, since keys and codes can be duplicated and passed around. Will have to see, though.

8:40 pm
April 14, 2009


Ohio

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Also, kglover

The Schlage Primus locks are very nice, high security locks. We have them on all of our doors and the keys are VERY hard to make duplicates of. Execellent choice!

12:51 pm
April 16, 2009


Kevin Glover

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I would recommend that as you upgrade you look at the possibility of having a dual system that can use prox cards or the punched in codes co that if the codes start getting compromised you can switch over to the card system without having to change any hardware. Just a thought

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