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Hey my name is Ryan. Myself and my dad have been running the security
team at church for the last 6 years. We have just recently started to
put things together. One of the church staff memebrs decided to take
control of this team on top of ushers and greaters and money team. The
church staff memeber took it and changed a ton of stuff. To make it a
long story short, the whole thing has gone into a disaster and if
something was to happen we would be in one big mess. I have tried and
my father has tried talking to the staff member but he is not taking it
serious and will not listen. I need some help on this. What do I need
to do or say or go too? Thanks!
You have tried to sort this out biblically by going to him personally. Now bring in a mutal friend/leader and talk with him together. If that doesn't work, take them to the Church leadership.
Either his leader/pastor asked him to take responsibility for these areas or he doesn't like how something is being run so he has decided to do something about it.
If it's the first, try and find out why. How did you and your father come to be in the role? If you were asked by a church leader, I would seek their counsel as they may have insight into the background of the move. It may be that Church leadership are seeking to streamline processes and therefore put one person in charge of those 4 areas (that work closely together). This is true of growing churches where having the numerous teams accountable directly to the pastor isn't practical.
If it's the second, he needs to be correct - not by you but by his superiors. I would speak with his boss/pastor and explain the situation. Try your best to leave personal attacks out of it. It's hard not be be offended when you see someone tearing down what you have established. This isn't about you, rather the safety and security of the church so go with the heart to better the systems regardless of who you need to work with.
Although his execution of leadership leaves something to be desired, if Church leadership have put him there you need to try and work with him as best you can. Submission creates a way for favour. Walking in love will earn people's respect. This Christian walk isn't an easy one
Yes I have tried talking to him before he started making all these changes. Also the church maitenance worker who does a lot with the security and stuff around the church has tried to talk to the staff member and the pastors about security and weather plans and was shut down. I have offered tons of information that could help and make this whole thing better in one day. Myself and my father are planning on going down to the church this week to talk it out in a nice way. I am thinking that I might bring in the maitenance worker to help with the talks. My dad was put in charge by the pervious pastor of our church and since the pastor has stepped down/retired. The church that I attend to is about 800-1000 people on Sundays. I just feel that if something is not done quick that something will happen and it won't be pretty. I want safety for everyone in the church and for people and vistors to feel welcome. Thanks for the advice I really appreciate it.
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